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Worst fairy tale to make into an animated film?

Post by mr. squarepants » May 12th, 2005, 2:51 pm

What do you guys think would be the worst fairy tale to turn into an animated film? I cannot think of one at the moment, but I was someone else would.

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Post by PatrickvD » May 12th, 2005, 3:11 pm

Rumpustilzkin or howevery you spell it. I saw a live action version when I was a kid. It freaked me out. I hate the storyline. It's totally stupid. Would love to see rapunzel though. Hope Disney doesn't screw it up.

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Post by mr. squarepants » May 12th, 2005, 3:30 pm

PatrickvD wrote:Would love to see rapunzel though. Hope Disney doesn't screw it up.
Me too. Supposedly, Reese Witherspoon has dropped out of the project. Plus, with names like Kristin Chenoweth and Clay Aiken, and not Queen Latifah and Snoop Dogg, being linked to the film, I have hope that Rapunzel Unbraided may now just be Rapunzel, if you know what I mean.

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Post by ShyViolet » May 12th, 2005, 4:27 pm

The ORIGINAL Cinderella from the Grimm Brothers--you know, where Cinderella's step-sisters cut off pieces of their feet to fit into the slippers.
And later they get their eyes pecked out by these two birds. :shock:

Also another cool Grimm tale--The Juniper tree. It's about a little boy whose step-mother kills him (cuts off his head) to advance her own daughters and is then cooked (unknowingly) by his dad into stew. I forgot what happens but he does get revenge on her. :wink:

Little Red Riding Hood. I know it was made into a short,
("Red Hot Riding Hood") but I doubt you can make it into a feature without raising some issues. (Cross-dressing? The Wolf eating Grandma? He does eat her in some versions.) The story has very sexual overtones; it was partly meant as a warning for young girls to "stay on the path" and avoid strange men. Also in one version the Wolf asks Red to get in bed with him! (seriously) :oops:

Originally fairy tales were meant as folk tales, for kids as well as adults. :P

Rumpustilzkin or howevery you spell it. I saw a live action version when I was a kid. It freaked me out. I hate the storyline. It's totally stupid. Would love to see rapunzel though. Hope Disney doesn't screw it up.
A long time ago I saw a Muppet version (Muppet Fairy Tales or something) which was HILARIOUS.
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Post by Wonderlicious » September 26th, 2005, 10:38 am

There are a good number of fairy tales/classic stories that I don't think could be made into an animated film, or possibly a true film. These are...

The Gingerbread Man
If this was dragged to feature length, you'll be seeing an hour and a half of a little cookie jumping out of an oven and running down a country lane in England. It could be made into a short Silly Symphony cartoon, but even then it may not be the best material, as the ending is a bit marcarbre.

Ali Baba
This is due to a number of reasons. Firstly, people would compare it to Aladdin (another Arabian Night). Secondly, it isn't really suited to animation as it could easily work in live action. Lastly, it is a bit gory as well as people are killed not just by being stabbed, but by being drowned in oil.

The Three Bears
Similar reasons to Gingerbread Man here; it seems a bit too brief to become a feature film, though it would certainly look good as a Silly Symphony.

Little Red Riding Hood
For similar reasons as Shy Violet said. It's truly macarbre and has already been made as a sanitised Silly Symphony short (The Big Bad Wolf).

The Big Turnip
A turnip is big and gets pulled out the ground by a few people. What a bland idea. It can be summed in a sentence, and might not even be able to be padded out into short subject length.

Bluebeard
An intruiging tale, but is a bit too creepy in places (seeing the butchered corpses of your hubbie's former wives, anyone?), and in other places inpolitically correct.

Here are some that could work, but would need revising.

The Frog Prince
This would be a good idea, but would need a little tinkering to get it out to feature length without making it seem like another Beauty and the Beast/The Little Mermaid.

The Princess and the Pea
The same reasons as The Frog Prince...

Puss in Boots
It would need a little tinkering here and there, but would easily make a fine feature. However, thanks to Shrek 2, would this be a good idea if it was made outside of Dreamworks?

Dick Whittington
A possible alternative to Puss in Boots (it's a similar tale), but it may be a bit too obscure for many living outside of (or even inside) England, and it could do with a real villain.

Mother Holler
A story of a girl who falls down a well and gets glory, yet when her stepsisters follow, they don't exactly get the same. Did you know this story? It's a good concept, yet isn't it a bit obscure?
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Post by ShyViolet » September 26th, 2005, 3:10 pm

Little Red Riding Hood
For similar reasons as Shy Violet said. It's truly macarbre and has already been made as a sanitised Silly Symphony short (The Big Bad Wolf).
Don't forget Tex Avery's Red Hot Riding Hood! :wink:
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Post by Wonderlicious » September 26th, 2005, 3:52 pm

ShyViolet wrote:
Little Red Riding Hood
For similar reasons as Shy Violet said. It's truly macarbre and has already been made as a sanitised Silly Symphony short (The Big Bad Wolf).
Don't forget Tex Avery's Red Hot Riding Hood! :wink:
Oh yeah! Have you also seen Swing Shift Cinderella (which is of a similar content and Cindy looks very much like Miss Hood). I have that on an old video somewhere and it rocks my socks! :D
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Post by ShyViolet » September 27th, 2005, 2:33 pm

Oh yeah! Have you also seen Swing Shift Cinderella (which is of a similar content and Cindy looks very much like Miss Hood). I have that on an old video somewhere and it rocks my socks!
I haven't seen that but it sounds cute.... :wink:
Ali Baba
This is due to a number of reasons. Firstly, people would compare it to Aladdin (another Arabian Night). Secondly, it isn't really suited to animation as it could easily work in live action. Lastly, it is a bit gory as well as people are killed not just by being stabbed, but by being drowned in oil.
Plus there's always that "Thief and the Cobbler" movie that it could get compared to, although not too many people have seen that...plus the whole Arabian Nights thing is on the outs now because of Sinbad...(although I still think Sinbad was kick-a**. :wink: )
Then there's the whole political climate with the war and all that, which was Sinbad's downfall because even though they tried to alter it so that it wouldn't really reflect Arabian culture that much, it got criticized for that as well. (They just couldn't win.) THEN there's an old Popeye Ali Baba cartoon that is just full of offensive stereotypes, Arab and even African-American if memory serves....
The Frog Prince
This would be a good idea, but would need a little tinkering to get it out to feature length without making it seem like another Beauty and the Beast/The Little Mermaid.
I think Shrek 2 had a reference to this...(The King)
The Princess and the Pea
The same reasons as The Frog Prince...
Actually this might be a really cute idea, and I think it has potential....

If you think about, however, every fairy tale has its downfalls and they can always be altered, like you said. Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast are both, in their original form, extremely grim stories with LOTS of sadness. Beauty had three vain sisters and a father who sold her to the Beast because he stole one of his roses....Little Mermaid died because her prince didn't notice her and married someone else. (and she couldn't bring herself to kill him and turn back into a mermaid.)

A Bug's Life was really "the ant and the grasshopper...." fable (Ants gather food for winter while grasshopper plays.) By itself it's pretty short but it WAS given a plot. (Plus there's an old Disney short with this story as well.)

The boy who cried wolf might make a good story, although they're already kind of doing that with Chicken Little.... :wink:
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Post by Meg » September 27th, 2005, 2:41 pm

ShyViolet wrote:I think Shrek 2 had a reference to this...(The King)
The King was my favorite character.

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Post by ShyViolet » September 27th, 2005, 2:45 pm

Puss 'n Boots: "Whatever happens, I must not cry!"
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Post by ShyViolet » September 28th, 2005, 4:28 pm

Also I don't want to play the "I hate Pixar" song anymore, because I don't hate them. But even though Finding Nemo is a spectacular film in many ways the plot is extremely derivative of An American Tale (child interacts with human world/animal world/loses family/barely finds them again.) All the "Marlin almost got his son/thought he was dead" coincidences were done before in that movie.

And Nemo is cute but VERY much like Chip in Beauty and the Beast. Marlin is bascially Cogsworth in fish scales. W/out Dory AND Ellen that film would not be half the movie it is....

The Pixar films are bascially all The Prince and The Pauper redone and retooled for animation--character learns to appreciate different person/different world/self. They have the simplicity of fairy tales even if they don't actually adapt them. That's part of what makes them so popular but weakens them at the same time.
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Post by bullwinkle » November 23rd, 2005, 3:18 pm

shrek 2 is a fairy tale movie. and that was great. you cant get much better than shrek 2.

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