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Re: Moana

Postby EricJ » December 28th, 2016, 12:45 am

Randall wrote:And You're Welcome--Seriously, Duane Johnson sung that himself? He was GREAT!!


Much of the whole movie character of Maui may clearly have been inspired by "The Rock"'s WWE persona of singing obnoxious/egotistic songs about his rivals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWW2QY-ybr4

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Re: Moana

Postby Ben » December 28th, 2016, 4:28 am

...and hugely misogynistic, despite the staged setting. Unfortunately, most WWE fans won't get that irony and think it's okay to sing that kind of song. Amazingly, though, Johnson manages to make it fun and almost lighthearted enough to be family entertainment. But there's a line and I'm still not sure if it was crossed here. "You're Welcome" it ain't!

Glad Rand enjoyed both Kubo (he can go back and finally read my recent reviews now! Interestingly I described it as the result of what might happen if Pixar genuinely made a Ghibli style movie, albeit stop-motion) and Moana...I've had the soundtrack playing for a couple of weeks now too!

Kubo may be the year's most unique animated film, and Moana may be he most accomplished all-rounder, but I think Zootopia will ultimately take the awards. We just watched it again the night before last and it just keeps getting better and better in terms of subtle messages and how it deals with various issues, amazing for a family entertainment piece.

I think Moana is a dead cert for a song nom, though, and hopefully a win, either for How Far or Welcome.

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Re: Moana

Postby EricJ » December 28th, 2016, 3:49 pm

Ben wrote:...and hugely misogynistic, despite the staged setting. Unfortunately, most WWF fans won't get that irony and think it's okay to sing that kind of song. Amazingly, though, Johnson manages to make it fun and almost lighthearted enough to be family entertainment. But there's a line and I'm still not sure if it was crossed here. "You're Welcome" it ain't!


Psst...Wrestling isn't real--"The Rock" is supposed to be an obnoxious "bad guy" jerk, and the characters are supposed to pick big stagey-rally schoolyard fights.
(WWE even finally had to confess It's Not Real years ago, just for arena-insurance regulations, and whether the fans choose to be smart enough to believe it is up to the individual fans.)

Maui's a bit more likable, but still in Johnson/Rock character of being not exactly shy on ego, and coming up short on social graces and tact when it comes to playing up his cool points. (At least, as I abundantly understand from the trailer and "You're Welcome" clip.)

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Re: Moana

Postby Ben » December 28th, 2016, 3:54 pm

Yep, you got it right. (Maui's not real either.)

(And I think we understood wrestling wasn't real looooong before they had to admit it!)

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Re: Moana

Postby Vernadyn » December 29th, 2016, 2:19 am

Ben wrote:I think Moana is a dead cert for a song nom, though, and hopefully a win, either for How Far or Welcome.


I think La La Land might nab the ultimate win, especially given how strong the critical response is. For the record, I enjoyed La La Land the film, but I thought the songs were just…all right.

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Re: Moana

Postby Ben » December 29th, 2016, 5:18 am

Yeah, haven't been blown away by what I've heard of La La's songs either.