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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Bill1978 » September 30th, 2023, 9:00 pm

So basically, the reasoning is 'We went with CGI for camera angles'. Look I admit I don't know the technical side of things - but heaps of Disney's hand drawn movies of the 90s have plenty of amazing 'movement of the camera' in them. And incredible characterisation. The reason given for going CGI is pretty lame for me.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by gaastra » September 30th, 2023, 9:05 pm

So, this is limited animation disney?


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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Ben » September 30th, 2023, 9:19 pm

Roger Rabbit and (just for lavish tradigital artistry’s sake) Treasure Planet also say hi,

You can do anything in either medium if you really want to, and spend the time and money to achieve it.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by EricJ » October 1st, 2023, 3:57 am

Ben wrote:
September 30th, 2023, 8:23 am
And Princess Leia was never a Disney Princess.
Except in the equally "original" minds of a hundred Internet memers and Park Armchair-Imagineers, the MINUTE and second they heard Disney bought Lucas.
Hence the pre-emptive pronouncement, since Disney had already gone through the problems of putting Giselle in the parks, and knew what to expect from fans. Ah, creativity. :roll:

And yes, maybe it's the cheesy animation that's giving me the heavy Elena of Avalor vibes.
It just looks like a better-than-average TV animated Disney Channel series.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Ben » October 1st, 2023, 5:14 am

Only one hundred…? ;) :lol:

(And, yes, just to be clear, I’m winking and laughing with you here!)



By that logic, I guess Thumbelina and Anastasia are "Disney" princesses now, too, eh? Bluth must be so thrilled.

And if it had been held back…or been any good in any way, shape or form, the Enchanted sequel should have, by rights, been the apex of the 100 years celebration, combining live-action and (much more) animation. Alas…

Still think it’s a shame we didn’t get another kind of Fantasia in tribute, too, which wouldn’t have been too much time, cost or trouble to cobble together with some old and the abandoned F3 "shorts" and maybe one token new sequence, or two, and would have been very neat in this anniversary year. Maybe for 2040… :(

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by gaastra » October 1st, 2023, 11:06 am

Anastasia is on official disney princess merch now at the parks by the way.

https://youtube.com/shorts/aNGpBZt14sQ? ... Fr4H16oKLs

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Also looks like the "2d limited" comment has caused some backlash online.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Ben » October 1st, 2023, 12:32 pm

As it should! :D

I’ve always hated how traditional hand-drawn animation gets tagged as "2D". I’ve never used that designation because it has *never* been two dimensional. Even the earliest cartooning was drawn with depth and the illusion of bulk and weight. 2D insinuates it is "flat", when it is not. The same could be said of a printout of a CGI frame…

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Farerb » October 4th, 2023, 3:32 pm

New promotional image of Asha and the Teens:
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https://twitter.com/DisneyAPromos/statu ... RxSww&s=19

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Ben » October 4th, 2023, 8:36 pm

Swap the background and it may as well be Encanto…? ;)

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Farerb » October 6th, 2023, 2:35 am

Farerb wrote:
October 4th, 2023, 3:32 pm
New promotional image of Asha and the Teens:
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https://twitter.com/DisneyAPromos/statu ... RxSww&s=19
People are commenting that this image was made using AI.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Bill1978 » October 6th, 2023, 3:17 am

It actually reminds me of a live action movie poster where the creator has just slapped random individual shots of actors together and tried to make it look like the actors were all in the same room, at the same time. With Asha looking like she comes from a totally different movie than everyone else.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Ben » October 6th, 2023, 4:13 am

I donut get the AI reference, since "why?", but it does look cut and pasty. The telltale is the flatness to the characters: they’re too close together, with no sense of depth as they’re all the same size. It’s not the worst one of these we've seen, but doesn’t feel natural either. Give everyone more space and have the star's sparklies dropping all around and inbetween them, as opposed to being flat at the back, and it would all feel a little more involving.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Ben » November 3rd, 2023, 8:46 am

New clip:


Oh dear…it’s another Encanto opening. Look! Here we are! This is us! This is what we do! :(

Terrible lyrics and scanning, too. I’m reminded of Vi's signature line, "You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!" ;)


Doesn’t get much betterer with the villain song:


"Our songwriters delivered something very special". Shame they didn’t use it. :lol:

Pine's voice is way too high and boyish to be that "classic, traditional Disney villain" they’re trying for. Me thinks this could end up being too reverential without the gravitas to back that up… :(

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Farerb » November 3rd, 2023, 9:40 am

The songs feel like they belong in a Disney Channel movie. Even some of the the cheap DTV sequels had better songs than these.

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Re: Disney's Wish

Post by Ben » November 3rd, 2023, 5:03 pm

Xactly.

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