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Postby ShyViolet » November 27th, 2004, 12:45 am

I read on the General Discussions forum at Animation Nation that there is a new documentary produced called: "Dream On, Silly Dreamer." It documents the events, emotions, and reactions of the many, many hand-drawn artists who were fired from WDFA over the past few years. It is along the lines of "The Sweatbox" in its damning quality to the execs/system at Disney (animation-wise anyway).

It isn't exactly a protest film but more of a tribute to the great legacy of classic animation at Disney and how happy they were to have at least been a part of that. It is a tribute to "the good times" and remembering what was lost....I think it sounds awesome! :) I don't know where or when it will be available but I"m sure more info on it will come out. It sounds really cool but at the same time it does make you very sad. :cry:
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Postby Ben » November 27th, 2004, 12:56 pm

Take a look at their site:
http://www.dreamonsillydreamer.com/

Didn't we post about this?

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Postby ShyViolet » November 28th, 2004, 3:48 pm

I guess I didn't see it. :oops:

I was very impressed with the trailer for it...it reminded me of "Roger and Me," the Disney version.

I LOVED the little animated vignettes.

It's really sad, however. It makes you think a lot. I hope it gets a lot of exposure. It is REALLY damning to the company.
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Postby James » November 28th, 2004, 5:29 pm

I didn't see it either!

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WDFA Documentary

Postby CoryMitchell » November 29th, 2004, 10:27 am

Jim Hill has an awesome article today that covers a number of topics, but most interesting is the documentary "Dream On Silly Dreamer" about the end of hand drawn animation at WDFA.

http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/articles ... hp?ID=1198

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Postby PatrickvD » November 29th, 2004, 10:38 am

I hope that movie will outgross Chicken Little at the Box Office.

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Postby James » November 29th, 2004, 10:55 am

I've combined the threads "New documentary" and "WDFA documentary" into one thread.

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Postby ShyViolet » November 29th, 2004, 8:59 pm

I am VERY excited about this. Maybe it'll be bigger than F: 9-11! (not to compare the events as that similar, just box-office performance and popularity) Certainly it will shed some EXPOSURE of what has been happening to the company. It kind of has a Moore-ish feel to it, which serves the subject matter well.

You never know--maybe this'll be it--that one big, important spark that affects some real change. :wink:
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Postby James » November 29th, 2004, 9:25 pm

ShyViolet wrote:I am VERY excited about this. Maybe it'll be bigger than F: 9-11! (not to compare the events as that similar, just box-office performance and popularity) Certainly it will shed some EXPOSURE of what has been happening to the company. It kind of has a Moore-ish feel to it, which serves the subject matter well.

You never know--maybe this'll be it--that one big, important spark that affects some real change. :wink:


Just like F9/11 accomplished the real change that Moore set out for it! :wink:

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Postby ShyViolet » November 29th, 2004, 9:53 pm

Hopefully the producers of Dreamer will have more luck than Moore did.
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I would be very afraid if I were Disney. :twisted:
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Postby mr. squarepants » November 29th, 2004, 11:11 pm

Maybe if Fahrenheit 9/11 had not twisted so much of the truth, it would have accomplished its goal. Moore would be taken much more seriously, if he would only quit putting fallacies and misconceptions in his documentaries. I mean, I am sure that anyone wanting to make an anti-Bush film could find plenty of dirt on Bush, without having to make some up. I do not like to disrespect the President, but I am just being honest.

Anyway, I am lookng forward to Dream On Silly Dreamer. However, I am not sure how much it will accomplish. After all, I am suspecting that the main people the film will be going after will be out of office in a year or two. For instance, Eisner is leaving, and Stainton's job-security is looking a little worse almost every day. Still, no matter how much the film accomplishes, I am looking forward to it and think it will be a good, informative documentary.

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Postby ShyViolet » November 29th, 2004, 11:38 pm

Tom Schumacker is still there, in the theater department. (they're supposed to be producing the stage versions of "The Little Mermaid" and "Mary Poppins") How will he look after the film's presentation of "The Tom Meeting" which will show the fresh reactions of animators who were just told (by him) that they are no longer needed?? (I think it was in 2002).

I think Emperor's New Groove was kind of like a protest film because Kuzco's repressive kingdom kind of reminds you of Disney. I really think Kronk looked like TS.
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Postby Stego » November 29th, 2004, 11:49 pm

That's a very interesting interpretation...

I've been told that the film was basically the result of a bunch of rewrites of poorly realized ideas, resolting in a "quick! this film is in danger of being a stink bomb...so let's make it a gag-reel" movie.

But, i think i like your version better. :D

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Postby ShyViolet » November 30th, 2004, 12:00 am

Thanks! :wink: That whole thing with "I'm sorry, but you've thrown off the Emperor's groove" and all those nasty guards/repressive regime thing kind of got me thinking. I mean, what other dictatorship could they have modeled it on??
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Postby Stego » November 30th, 2004, 12:03 am

This is very true...never really thought of it that way.

by the way...i'm in the chat room... :D

which reminds me...why don't we organize a group chat sometime? Or am i just being lame? :wink: