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Aren't you guys forgetting something?

Post by DarrenBest » January 24th, 2005, 4:01 pm

Aren't you guys forgetting something? :D

You guys haven't factored in the Annies, which are like the Golden Globes for this category. The Best Animated Feature category is voted on only by animation professionals, and if I'm not mistaking, they overlap with the Annie voting body. That would mean that the Annies Best Picture category would predict the animated feature nominees.

This year, the Annies chose:
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
The Incredibles
Shrek 2
The Spongebob Squarepants Movie

If you recall, The Polar Express was all but shunned by the Annies, which I think is a bad sign for it. No animated film has even been nominated for the Oscar without getting the Annie nomination first, for the exception of Monster's Inc. which wasn't eligible until the following year, when it eventually DID place. I think the Academy will go the way of the high art Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence. They've already proven an affinity for anime in the form of Spirited Away, which came from behind with no pre-cursor Oscar support and basically its box-office was non-existent. It eventually won. At least Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence has a cult following among animators to work with. Hmm...Something to think about.

My final predictions:

Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
The Incredibles - WINNER!
Shrek 2


For full predictions in every category, visit the off-topic section of ultimatedisney.com.

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Post by Inkan1969 » January 24th, 2005, 4:46 pm

The Incredibles
Shrek 2
Shark Tale

The third nominee is the only suspense this time around. Aren't the nominees determined by animation professionals? I think there will be too much of a mocap backlash against "Polar Express" for it to be nominated, it'le be "Waking Life" all over again. After PE, "Shark Tale" was the most prominent animated feature. "Home on the Range", "Ghost in the Shell 2" and "SpongeBob Squarepants" are dark horse possibilities. HotR might be there as a token 2D movie. I don't know if members will take "SpongeBob" seriously enough to consider it worth nominating. "GitS2" was a dud at the boxoffice and so I really doubt it'll get the nom.

BTW: "Spirited Away" had the clout of Hayao Miyazaki's name behind, and the push of very rabid fans behind it. Disney rode that wave in then mounting a big ad campaign for the oscar, bigger than what "Lilo and Stitch" and "Treasure Planet" got. So it really wasn't "come from behind."

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Post by Josh » January 24th, 2005, 11:50 pm

Though not animated, I'd also predict that Randy Newman is a possible long shot contender for the Song award for Meet the Fockers.
Why does Newman get nominated about every year he has a project out? I mean that as a serious question.

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Post by scrantov » January 25th, 2005, 1:24 am

Well, "The Incredibles" is pretty much a lock for Best Animated film. And it might get nominated for Best Film, which it is.

I don't think it'll get a music nomination, because the score was just not very good. But sound editing, sound mixing for sure. Hopefully it'll get a nomination for writing and directing as well!

But since The Incredibles was nominated for Best Production Design by the Art Directors Guild, it stands a damned good chance of getting an Oscar nomination--which would be a first for an animated film. And about damned time.

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Post by Christian » January 25th, 2005, 4:33 am

Beauty and the Beast was nominated for best film. And the Academy will like The Incredibles score because it is very old school sounding.

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Post by macontosh2000 » January 25th, 2005, 8:49 am

How the hell was Sharktale nominated???????

Best Animated Feature
The Incredibles
Shrek 2
Sharktale ( :roll: )

Best Original Screenplay
The Incredibles

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77th Oscar nominies list!

Post by Wolf Tooth » January 25th, 2005, 8:53 am

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

Don Cheadle - HOTEL RWANDA
Johnny Depp - FINDING NEVERLAND
Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR
Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Jamie Foxx - RAY

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Alan Alda - THE AVIATOR
Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS
Jamie Foxx - COLLATERAL
Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Clive Owen - CLOSER

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE

Annette Bening - BEING JULIA
Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE
Imelda Staunton - VERA DRAKE
Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR
Laura Linney - KINSEY
Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS
Sophie Okonedo - HOTEL RWANDA
Natalie Portman - CLOSER

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM

THE INCREDIBLES
SHARK TALE
SHREK 2

ART DIRECTION

THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT

CINEMATOGRAPHY

THE AVIATOR
HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT

COSTUME DESIGN

THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
RAY
TROY

DIRECTING

THE AVIATOR
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS
VERA DRAKE

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE

BORN INTO BROTHELS
THE STORY OF THE WEEPING CAMEL
SUPER SIZE ME
TUPAC: RESURRECTION
TWIST OF FAITH

DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT

AUTISM IS A WORLD
THE CHILDREN OF LENINGRADSKY
HARDWOOD
MIGHTY TIMES: THE CHILDREN'S MARCH
SISTER ROSE'S PASSION

FILM EDITING

THE AVIATOR
COLLATERAL
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN
THE CHORUS
DOWNFALL
THE SEA INSIDE
YESTERDAY

MAKEUP

LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE SEA INSIDE

MUSIC (SCORE)

FINDING NEVERLAND
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
LEMONY SNICKET'S A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
THE VILLAGE

MUSIC (SONG)

"Accidentally In Love" - SHREK 2
"Al Otro Lado Del Río" - THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
"Believe" - THE POLAR EXPRESS
"Learn To Be Lonely" - THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA
"Look To Your Path (Vois Sur Ton Chemin)" - THE CHORUS

BEST PICTURE

THE AVIATOR
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
RAY
SIDEWAYS

SHORT FILM (ANIMATED)

BIRTHDAY BOY
GOPHER BROKE
GUARD DOG
LORENZO
RYAN

SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION)

EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY MUST
LITTLE TERRORIST
7:35 IN THE MORNING
TWO CARS, ONE NIGHT
WASP

SOUND EDITING

THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
SPIDER-MAN 2

SOUND MIXING

THE AVIATOR
THE INCREDIBLES
THE POLAR EXPRESS
RAY
SPIDER-MAN 2

VISUAL EFFECTS

HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
I, ROBOT
SPIDER-MAN 2

WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)

BEFORE SUNSET
FINDING NEVERLAND
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES
SIDEWAYS

WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)

THE AVIATOR
ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
HOTEL RWANDA
THE INCREDIBLES
VERA DRAKE
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Post by Special_Ed » January 25th, 2005, 9:16 am

Because 2-D is dead. Don't be surprised is Shrek 2 wins! HA HA HA HA!!!!
Jesus is Lord! :)

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Post by Special_Ed » January 25th, 2005, 9:18 am

Because 2-D is dead. Don't be surprised is Shrek 2 wins! HA HA HA HA!!!!
Jesus is Lord! :)

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Post by Phil » January 25th, 2005, 10:21 am

Welcome back, Ed!

I have to admit that I've only seen one of the nominees for animated short (Lorenzo), but I was surprised to not see Boundin' on the list. I really liked it (although it seemed and odd pairing with The Incredibles). How did the academy overlook that one? Were the other nominees that good?

I can already hear someone saying, "Pixar gets nominated every year. Let someone else have a chance." But Pixar gets nominated every year because they consistently deserve it.

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Post by AniMan » January 25th, 2005, 11:23 am

Only one real surprise (somewhat) here: The Incredibles nomination for Best Original Screenplay. I'm very, very pleased to hear that because it seems that the Academy all too often overlooks animated films for this category, as though an animated film does not need a script or screenplay. And let's face it, Brad Bird came up with the most original screenplay of them all (although Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is pretty dang original, too) But Brad's was sooooo much fun to watch!

I hope "Believe" wins in the best song category. It's a beautiful song.

If "The Incredibles" doesn't win best animated feature I'm going to freakin' explode! It is FAR better than Shrek 2 and massively better than
Shark Tale.

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Post by James » January 25th, 2005, 11:30 am

Phil wrote:Welcome back, Ed!

I have to admit that I've only seen one of the nominees for animated short (Lorenzo), but I was surprised to not see Boundin' on the list. I really liked it (although it seemed and odd pairing with The Incredibles). How did the academy overlook that one? Were the other nominees that good?

I can already hear someone saying, "Pixar gets nominated every year. Let someone else have a chance." But Pixar gets nominated every year because they consistently deserve it.
Boundin' was nominated last year.
http://www.animated-news.com/archives/00000973.html

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Post by AniMan » January 25th, 2005, 11:49 am

I don't know why, but I wasn't impressed by "Boundin". It's the first Pixar film, short or feature length, that I really didn't care for. I was a little too cutesy for my taste. It was visually all that impressive either.

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Post by James » January 25th, 2005, 11:58 am

AniMan wrote:Only one real surprise (somewhat) here: The Incredibles nomination for Best Original Screenplay. I'm very, very pleased to hear that because it seems that the Academy all too often overlooks animated films for this category, as though an animated film does not need a script or screenplay...
Shouldn't have been a huge surprise to readers of this thread! :)

BTW - Other animated films with Best Screenplay nominations include: Toy Story, Shrek, and Finding Nemo.
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Post by askmike1 » January 25th, 2005, 12:10 pm

There's only one thing I can't stand about the Oscars...the fact that 99% of the nominees opened in December/January. So many films earlier in the year were overlooked. For example, Passion of the Christ should have been nominated (and won) for best foreign language film (yes, I think latin is as foreign as it gets). Also, Little Patch of Heaven deserved Best Song.

Anywho, nothing really surprised me this year (yes, BatB is still the only Best film nominee). I think Shrek 2 is going to win, because if the academy chose Shrek over Monsters Inc, they'll definately choose Shrek 2 over Incredibles. If Shark Tale wins, that'll be a real upset. The only category I'm stuck on is best score since Passion and Potter both had excellent scores.

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