SPIDEY 4 becomes AMAZING becomes Marvel's SPIDER-MAN

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Post by Randall » March 7th, 2020, 10:07 am

I still place Spider-Man 2 among the top tier superhero films, though that list has gotten crowded over the past few years.

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Post by Ben » March 7th, 2020, 1:07 pm

In terms of super-movies, Spidey 2 is probably second only to Superman for me. It is the Empire Strikes Back of super-movies.

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Post by EricJ » March 7th, 2020, 10:57 pm

Ben wrote:
March 7th, 2020, 1:07 pm
In terms of super-movies, Spidey 2 is probably second only to Superman for me. It is the Empire Strikes Back of super-movies.
What, the frustrating, aimless and depressing one that didn't feel as instinctive as the classic game-changing first one, namely because it turned the hero into an impulsive/selfish jerk? :lol:

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Post by Randall » March 8th, 2020, 1:29 am

That's not really how I remember Spider-Man 2. Or Empire Strikes Back, either.

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Post by James » March 8th, 2020, 1:54 am

I am off the reservation on this one, because I think those Raimi Spiderman films are so cringy. I have to mute the narration during them whenever I watch them. Can't stand Aunt May's little speeches. And the Parker/Watson/Osbourne dynamic feels like a bad soap opera. They do do a few things right especially with him figuring out his powers. I love Danny Elfman's music. And J. K. Simmons is one of the best casting choices ever in a superhero movie, right along side RDJ. But, man what bad movies! Sorry!

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Post by Ben » March 8th, 2020, 8:47 am

First you pick Trek over Wars, and now this?

God, it’s just like we just don’t even know you anymore.

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Post by Randall » March 8th, 2020, 11:24 am

Spider-Man comics are totally soap operas. I thought that was one thing the films got right.

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Post by Ben » March 8th, 2020, 4:30 pm

Absolutely. Spider-Man is as much about Pete growing up and dealing with stuff as it is about webslinging and crawling. The Raimis largely got that right, which is why the third film was a disappointment (though I don’t find it as bad as many). The new MCUs are working this angle well, but they’re just so tied to the rest of that universe, even more so, it seems at times, than the other "standalone" films, if you want to be generous and call them that.

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Post by ShyViolet » March 8th, 2020, 5:02 pm

Yes...the whole “universe” aspect of the MCU is kind of what puts me off of it. When the post-Raimi Spider-Man reboot was first released, I honestly wasn’t all that interested. :? But maybe two or three years later I thought of giving the reboot movies a chance...only to find out that in order to “catch-up” with everything that happened I ALSO had to watch a ton of non Spidey films in order to have something of a grasp of what was going on. :?

(I realize the X-Men films threw continuity to the winds, but at least they were only tied to OTHER X-Men films, and to some extent you actually could enjoy them as stand—alone films.)
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