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Re: Moana

Post by Bill1978 » May 18th, 2020, 6:07 am

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To each his own I guess. I liked Shiny better than Love is an Open Door, Mother Knows Best, Friends on the Other Side and, especially, Mine, Mine, Mine.
I will never accept Love Is An Open Door as a villain song, it will always be a love song for me.

The main reason why I am not a fan of Shiny is you could remove the actual song and the plot still progresses and you don't lose any of the story. Whereas the others that you mention if you remove them you do lose some of the plot.

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Re: Moana

Post by Daniel » May 18th, 2020, 12:48 pm

It's the first time we get some insight into Maui being abandoned I believe, which leads to him opening up about it. He also gets his hook back and realizes he can no longer control his shape-shifting.

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Re: Moana

Post by EricJ » May 18th, 2020, 12:57 pm

Bill1978 wrote:
May 18th, 2020, 6:07 am
I will never accept Love Is An Open Door as a villain song, it will always be a love song for me.
Technically, it WAS a love song, before they emergency-redrafted Hans into the Lying, Controlling Male Villain.

As villain songs go, it's not "Hellfire", but then, I never heard anybody give any other earthly reason for defending Hunchback. :lol:

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Re: Moana

Post by Farerb » May 18th, 2020, 1:30 pm

Daniel wrote:
May 18th, 2020, 12:48 pm
It's the first time we get some insight into Maui being abandoned I believe, which leads to him opening up about it. He also gets his hook back and realizes he can no longer control his shape-shifting.
It also have Tamatoa play into both Maui's and Moana's insecurities about their identities, which is the main theme of the film.

If there is a part that feels a bit unnecessary, it's the Kakamora sequence, but I would say that even that has a nice small set up and pay off with Maui doing all those tricks with the boat, Moana watches him and then she does the exact same tricks against Te Kā.

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Re: Moana

Post by Daniel » May 18th, 2020, 1:37 pm

True dat.

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Re: Moana

Post by Daniel » May 28th, 2020, 2:59 pm

Early demo of "How Far I'll Go". Interesting to compare.

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Re: Moana

Post by Farerb » July 11th, 2021, 12:58 pm

Musker and Clements' Swan Song is a love letter to the Disney Renaissance:

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Re: Moana

Post by Ben » July 11th, 2021, 1:41 pm

Or…it just shows up how formulaic these things are…

Ouch!

Sorry… ;)

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Re: Moana

Post by Farerb » July 11th, 2021, 1:51 pm

Perhaps, I don't mind formulas if they are executed well.

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Re: Moana

Post by Ben » July 11th, 2021, 3:07 pm

Except the ones where you get turned into a cow and have to ask to be excused. ;)

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Re: Moana

Post by EricJ » July 12th, 2021, 2:11 am

I also put it next to Princess & the Frog, their penultimate-song, as an example of a story that had a Great Setting and an Empowered Heroine, but never the twain did meet.
New Orleans is nice to look at, and so is Tahiti, but what they had to do with the heroine's goal, I still wasn't sure by the last reel...And at least I knew what Tiana's goal WAS. :?

One thing Musker & Clements always did well (in addition to keeping Disney stocked with heroes like Aladdin, Hercules, Jim Hawkins and Basil of Baker Street), was find the synthesis between the "world" of the story and the appeal of its original tale--Aladdin and Little Mermaid were made for their environments, and you could put Treasure Planet in space without the Royal-Navy motif, but it just wouldn't "feel" like the classic story.

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Re: Moana

Post by Farerb » January 21st, 2022, 2:56 pm

Just announced: David G. Derrick Jr. will direct Walt Disney Animation Studios’ “Moana” series for Disney+. Derrick first joined Disney Animation to work on 2016's Moana, which deepened his connection with his family’s Samoan roots.
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Re: Moana

Post by Bill1978 » January 21st, 2022, 6:24 pm

With 'We Don't Talk About Bruno' hitting the top spot in the UK Singles Chart, the Official Chart Company released the top 100 Disney streaming songs in the UK https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-ne ... uk__35039/. What's of note is that Moana had the most songs, and the #1 song (and maybe not the one you would have guessed). Which matches with that news from last month (I think) that said Moana is one of the most streamed movies on Disney+. Also of note is the minimum impact of the songs from Frozen II.

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Re: Moana

Post by Daniel » January 26th, 2022, 3:18 pm

Pretty amazing. It's definitely one soundtrack I revisit often.

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Re: Moana

Post by Dacey » January 26th, 2022, 4:50 pm

I mean, those charts mean a lot less now with everyone being able to get ALL of those songs for free legally on YouTube. The UK YouTube video of Let It Go has more than a billion views alone.
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