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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by James » December 9th, 2019, 2:00 pm

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December 7th, 2019, 5:34 pm
It's so frustrating and odd in not being its own thing. The smallest throwaway moments from the original got stretched out to overlong sequences, while the big emotional moments were all truncated.
That was one of my biggest complaints. How long was the stupid segment with the fur blowing in the wind! Yet...
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Can You Feel The Love This Afternoon should have taken place at magic hour. I get that they may not have wanted to go full midnight blue because of Rafiki's upcoming scene, but it should have had a golden twilight glow. It just looked like daylight.
Simba and Nala were feeling the love within 30 seconds of meeting each other again!

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Ben » December 9th, 2019, 2:31 pm

Exactly.

And don’t get me going on fur-poo. What the frickity-frick was THAT doing in there!?

It was so bizarre, we were actually giggling about them going there...and they did! Like, how long did that process take? It was another of those films where stupid decisions like that pulled you out and you started to think about how stupid some things were.

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Bill1978 » December 9th, 2019, 2:42 pm

I haven't seen it yet but I have watched most of the musical numbers on YouTube and I really think the thing that sums up the approach to this movie is that they thought it was now perfectly fine (and hilarious) for Pumbaa to now say 'farted' in Hakuna Matata.

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by ShyViolet » December 9th, 2019, 3:39 pm

:shock:



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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Ben » December 9th, 2019, 7:30 pm

Still not a patch on fur-poo... :roll:

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Randall » December 9th, 2019, 11:31 pm

Bill1978 wrote:
December 9th, 2019, 2:42 pm
I haven't seen it yet but I have watched most of the musical numbers on YouTube and I really think the thing that sums up the approach to this movie is that they thought it was now perfectly fine (and hilarious) for Pumbaa to now say 'farted' in Hakuna Matata.
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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Randall » December 9th, 2019, 11:45 pm

So, we watched it last night.

Well, the 3D was actually pretty good.

And now on to my negative comments....

Half-kidding.

Actually, without the original to compare to, this might have been an effective, modern True Life Adventure. But of course, one cannot ignore that this is a remake--- a very expensive, amazing technological achievement of a remake. And it's a baffling one in many ways. But it achieved its main objective, which was to make money. So, mission accomplished.

I did actually enjoy watching it, mostly from the standpoint of admiring the technical achievement, which is really what I was there for. Having a nearly shot-for-shot remake was a pointless artistic exercise, but the technical aspect was amazing. And I did get a kick out of seeing the story realized "realistically," I have to admit.

But all the criticisms are valid. I didn't need to hear the word "fart," though it was a little amusing that Pumbaa was waiting for Timon to interject. Endless hair puff sequence. Poo Hair was icky. Can You Feel the Love This Afternoon was shockingly ill-conceived (why not just at least change the lyric if you're going to go that way?). "Realistic" animals can't emote too effectively. The enhanced, now unnecessarily spoken-out-loud sibling rivalry for Simba's mother moved the story even closer to being based on Hamlet, as if we couldn't "get" it before. Having Dad portrayed by the same actor made the whole effort seem a little more pointless, iconic though James Earl Jones is.

I didn't really mind the new song. But I may change my mind on a second viewing.

Much like Aladdin, I found myself enjoying the film despite my better judgment. It's flawed, but it's still a good story.

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by EricJ » December 10th, 2019, 12:40 am

The enhanced, now unnecessarily spoken-out-loud sibling rivalry for Simba's mother moved the story even closer to being based on Hamlet, as if we couldn't "get" it before
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(Unless, you mean, the movie was now deliberately trying to imitate Hamlet, to keep up the legendary alibi.)

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by ShyViolet » December 10th, 2019, 12:56 am

That’s very interesting about the filmmakers actually including the whole sibling rivalry/Simba’s mom subtext in the film, Randall. As unnecessary as this whole film is, in my opinion, I have to admit that having that element does intrigue me.

(Believe it or not, the Scar/Serabi subplot was originally very much part of the ‘94 film, but wound up being being scrapped because JK thought it might have been too upsetting for kids.)
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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Daniel » January 6th, 2020, 4:18 pm

Queen B's song "Spirits" lost the Golden Globe. Oh well. ;)

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Bill1978 » January 9th, 2020, 9:19 pm

Such a shame, I have my fingers crossed that her name isn't enough to get it an Oscar nom

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Daniel » January 17th, 2020, 1:20 pm

The VFX team explain and defend why the animals don't emote. Yep, animals can show realistic emotion, they just opted not to. Here's a pic of a real lion cub:

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Does that not scream Simba? If only...

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Re: The Lion King Remake

Post by Daniel » January 26th, 2020, 11:38 am

Quote from this article:
John Musker wrote:I think Favreau's a brilliant filmmaker, but the shot-for-shot fealty to the hand-drawn Lion King, as well as the inexpressive animation in his film, left me uninvolved.
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