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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by EricJ » March 24th, 2021, 2:12 pm

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I chuckled the other day reading an article claiming that BW was "one of Marvel's most anticipated releases." Really? By what standard?! Typical film industry hyperbole. It is more likely near the bottom of the list. I know that I am not all that excited for it, though it may turn out to be great.
It's...certainly Marvel's longest demanded release, if not technically "most".

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by Dacey » March 24th, 2021, 2:23 pm

I've been championing for a Black Widow movie since Iron Man 2, so I'm fully on board (it would be a bit more exciting if she hadn't died in Endgame, though).
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Post by EricJ » March 24th, 2021, 4:25 pm

Although the first people to talk about a Black Widow movie was Paramount, who were...not Disney/Marvel.
And, when Iron Man 2 underwhelmed the fans, the studio's "Elektra complex" kicked in, and execs' first defensive impulse was to say "Maybe they just wanted to see more of the sexy babe!" rather than do a straight sequel. That's how far back it goes.

It was the, ahem, other fans who turned it into some Social Crusade that we "needed" Black Widow to get her own movie as a social example, so there!
(Again, because nobody ever thought MCU would give in to fan completism and give Captain Marvel her own movie.)

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by Randall » March 24th, 2021, 9:37 pm

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I've been championing for a Black Widow movie since Iron Man 2, so I'm fully on board (it would be a bit more exciting if she hadn't died in Endgame, though).
Exactly. It feels unnecessary and inconsequential. However, I do think there will be something in it to bring the MCU story forward in an unexpected way.

They've got to do that, right?

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Post by EricJ » March 25th, 2021, 7:08 pm

Well, um, not really, since it doesn't fit in with any of their stated Phase IV plans--
There was a point where Marvel was considering the print-comics' "Dark Avengers" (sort of the Marvel Legion of Doom) as a new running archvillain, where Natasha's jealous "sister" from her training days, Yelena Belova, became the equivalent Evil Black Widow...

But, unless there's a last-scene character twist like they did with Doctor Strange, we're getting Marvel Chik-Flik.
(Or, as the joke went when the teaser first hit, "Do You Want To Shoot An Iron Man?")
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Post by Ben » March 25th, 2021, 8:52 pm

Well, um, if they *don't* do anything to lay *some* kind of Easter egg for future plans, them it’s an awful waste of a then belated and completely pointless "flashback" movie that has no bearing on the here and now, since *in* the here and now she’s dead!

So...yeah, there’s definitely something in here that explains and/or sets up something pretty pivotal for someone to act on in the future of the MCU. They just don’t *do* random...

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Post by EricJ » March 25th, 2021, 9:56 pm

Well, um, if they *don't* do anything to lay *some* kind of Easter egg for future plans, them it’s an awful waste of a then belated and completely pointless "flashback" movie that has no bearing on the here and now, since *in* the here and now she’s dead!
...Bingo. :wink:

At the moment, the only active Phase IV strategies are:
- Multiverse Wipe (Dr. Strange 2, WandaVision)
- Young/female successors (Ant-Man 3, Thor 4, never-ending rumors of an "A-Force" after that pandering Endgame shot)
- And rumors that MCU's going to retry Spiderman's "Sinister Six" with the existing Raimi/MCU villains in the third movie, because Sony just couldn't let their Amazing 2 go.

As for "Have you hugged your Skrull/betrayed-rival sister today? :mrgreen: " as a strategy, that was...last year.

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by Daniel » March 26th, 2021, 3:47 am

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by Ben » March 26th, 2021, 7:15 am

So...are you changing your stance, EJ, or did you twist yourself up in backtalk? ;) :lol:

Black Widow, the movie, will obviously introduce a character who will then come back out of hiding in a future film to avenge/become the new Black Widow, the character, maybe leading a new team of good, or even bad, people, before showing allegiance to the good guys via sacrifice at the end of a future teamup of solo standalone... Anyone fit the bill for that...? ;)

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by EricJ » March 26th, 2021, 5:37 pm

Yeah, now, now that the studio's given up the Legion of Doom idea, and has to change strategies for all the Endgame casualties (and expired actor contracts) that ended up in the final script draft...

I don't think we'll see much of the comic-relief "Russian version of Fat Thor" representative-male slob sidekick, though, he was exclusive to some of the "Russian" characters and Widow's own comic.

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Post by Daniel » April 2nd, 2021, 3:17 am

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by Bill1978 » April 2nd, 2021, 4:06 am

I'm kinda tempted to watch Caravan of Courage cause I loved the movie as a kid when it first came out and I was in major ewok obsession but I'm worried watching it as an adult will ruin the sweet childhood memories I have of the film

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by Ben » April 2nd, 2021, 4:49 am

Ooh, up for Third Man...hope it’s in its original scope framing, the DVD was heavily cropped. Also good to see the Ewok movies on there, though I’m not sure they held up even back when they were released! Sorry Bill! Even my tender age of eleven or twelve, I always thought Battle For Endor was the better of the two, with some "proper" style ILM effects, but again the DVD transfers were cropped or open matte, so it’d be nice if they’re on in their theatrical ratios (both got international big screen releases and were, really, the first non-saga "anthology films" — nice to see Disney remember them at least).

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by Randall » April 2nd, 2021, 11:22 am

Bill1978 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 4:06 am
I'm kinda tempted to watch Caravan of Courage cause I loved the movie as a kid when it first came out and I was in major ewok obsession but I'm worried watching it as an adult will ruin the sweet childhood memories I have of the film
I had actually just purchased the (previously) rare DVD off eBay from a German seller. I kind of regret that, now that D+ has these films up anyway. My son and I watched Caravan, and it's not so good - fairly boring, unless you have nostalgia for it. I had never watched these before. I am told that Battle for Endor is somewhat better.

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Re: New Disney Streaming Service: Disney+

Post by EricJ » April 2nd, 2021, 4:39 pm

I watched both movies (they're supposed to be connected) on a back-of-the-shelf library double-feature DVD, and...yeah, they're not prime.
Like Phantom Menace, Lucas wanted "the little kid" audience, with a cute Drew Barrymore-clone 80's-tot and her hotheaded Jedi-wannabe big brother, who was dropped from the second film. And, like Phantom Menace, you can guess how subtly Lucas's attempt at grabbing the "little kid audience" was handled.

Endor is somewhat better, as it goes WAY off the SW radar, and into fantasy/Willow territory that Lucas was wanting to start dabble in.

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