I thought I read a story in Entertainment Weekly a long time ago saying that they were that lenghth.
Well, anyway, they are longer than before and they show a whole lot of stuff. Notice that the Batman '89 trailer didn't show too much of the Joker, or any vital scenes--him falling into the acid, destroying the art, shocking the guy with his hand buzzer. Nowadays they definetely would have shown those parts. At least I think so.
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
Question: Who do you like better as the Joker: Jack Nicolson or Mark Hamill?
A lot of people consider Jack the canonical, definitive Joker but there are other hard-core fans who feel that his performance was over-the-top, hammy and extremely self-indulgent.
Many feel Hamill is the "true" Joker as opposed to Nicholson.
Although I think Hamill did an excellent job in B:TAS and gave a tremendous performance in BB: Return of the Joker, I have to say I prefer Nicholson. He was, after all, the genesis of all those comic-book film villains that so many have tried to copy. He blended cartoonish exhuberance with deadly serious psychosis; no easy feat. The performance could very easily have gone wrong, but the general consensus is that it didn't.
How about you? Who's your favorite Joker?
(If you liked Caesar Romero best or someone from one of the old serials, just say so! )
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You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
Nicholson did well, but was really too old and too chubby to be the Joker, IMO. The Joker was always a lanky guy in the comics, not a middle-aged guy with a spare tire.
Mark was pretty good as the Joker, and I would have enjoyed seeing him get a shot at a live-action version. Alas, it shall never be.
Ledger? Wow, I'm just not sure. It makes me wonder what this Joker will be like, but I trust the creators based on Batman Begins. I'm actually kind of glad they didn't just go for a zany comedian type.
I think Jack would have been excellent around 1980 - imagine The Shining's Jack as Jack/Joker (that's a lot of Jacks!) and you'd be on to something there. I think that's what they wanted, but by the time the film came around to rolling, all that success had made its way to Nicholson's tummy!
I think Jack would have been excellent around 1980 - imagine The Shining's Jack as Jack/Joker (that's a lot of Jacks!) and you'd be on to something there.
That's an idea. That "Heeeeeeeeeere's Johnny!" face would have been perfect!
all that success had made its way to Nicholson's tummy!
Yeah, he looked pretty fat in that scene where he's "ballroom dancing" with Vickie Vale in the Cathedral.
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You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
Ledger? Wow, I'm just not sure. It makes me wonder what this Joker will be like, but I trust the creators based on Batman Begins. I'm actually kind of glad they didn't just go for a zany comedian type.
I still kind of wish it was Paul Bettany--he was quite scary in The Da Vinci Code.
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
I was watching the 1989 Batman yesterday...still a very fun film even after 17 years. (!!)
I still think Michael Keaton did a fantastic job. If you had to pick, who do you think's better:
Keaton or Bale?
Bale was awesome ten times over, but to me Keaton will always be Batman...(first role I ever saw him do.) [/b]
(Funny how each film dealt with the question of Batman's motives....in Begins there's all these long speeches of why Bruce became Batman, but Keaton only says: "It's just something I have to do." Why? "Because nobody else can.")
Interesting....
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You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
Plus I actually like the part when Bruce says to Joker in Bats 1: "You wanna get nuts? C'mon, let's get nuts!" It's totally unexpected and shows you how in some ways Bruce is as screwed up as the Joker.
But I don't get this: at the end of that scene in Vickie's apartment, does Bruce faint or something? Why the heck was he lying on the floor like that next to Vickie's fireplace?
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
