Amazing sweep tonight at the Annies.
Luckily they only complete a film every few years.
Next time, let someone else have a chance, Nick!
A great (if long) show.
Presenters included William Shatner, Brad Bird, Craig T. Nelson, Jason Alexander, June Foray, the Family Guy dude, the woman who was the original model for Tinker Bell (she still looked it, too!),Lee Unkrich and Patrick Warburton and others.
The voice of Spongebob Squarepants, Tom Kenny was the host.
Oh and Christian, in case you don't have the results, (some of them on your news story don't show the winner) the winners you're missing are:
Best Animated Television Production
Star Wars Clone Wars II
Best Animated Video Game
Ultimate Spider Man
Animated Effects
Wallace and Gromit
Character Animation
I THINK it was Claire Billet for Wallace and Gromit
Pretty sure it was.
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I would have liked it if the individual animators were better noted.
Just because W&G was the best film last year doesn't mean that everything in the individual categories was superior.
A few floating CG bunnies, for instance, wasn't better effects animation than the amazing surfing scenes in Madagascar.
Unlike every other Animation award, the Annies recognize the individual achievements of ANIMATORS.
If you win an Oscar, it's for the best animated film. If you win at Annecy or Hiroshima, again, the FILM wins, not the individual animators.
If you award everything in a film, you might just as well give out one award for the night.
Unless everything in the film is better than the competition.
This wasn't the case.
And there were categories where W&G was up against itself multiple times. That's the nominating commitee's doing.
For best character animation, 3 W&G animators were up against a live action movie (narnia) and a Tom & Jerry movie (did that even get released?).
What? Not even the Penguins in madagascar? Not even anyone from Howl's Moving Castle?
To me, it's a crime that Nik Raneri wasn't nominated for Buck Cluck in Chicken Little. Some of the best CG Character animation that's ever been done. And from a traditional guy!
For best voice performance, all 4 nominees were W&G cast members. No mention of the Penguins again. Nor the Lemur King. Nor anyone from Chicken Little.
The Annies have the potential to be something more than a popularity contest. But to do it right, people should be able to vote in their category of work.
Because the very best individual work of the year isn't being highlighted. The best FILM was. But not the best individual work.
Just because W&G was the best film last year doesn't mean that everything in the individual categories was superior.
A few floating CG bunnies, for instance, wasn't better effects animation than the amazing surfing scenes in Madagascar.
Unlike every other Animation award, the Annies recognize the individual achievements of ANIMATORS.
If you win an Oscar, it's for the best animated film. If you win at Annecy or Hiroshima, again, the FILM wins, not the individual animators.
If you award everything in a film, you might just as well give out one award for the night.
Unless everything in the film is better than the competition.
This wasn't the case.
And there were categories where W&G was up against itself multiple times. That's the nominating commitee's doing.
For best character animation, 3 W&G animators were up against a live action movie (narnia) and a Tom & Jerry movie (did that even get released?).
What? Not even the Penguins in madagascar? Not even anyone from Howl's Moving Castle?
To me, it's a crime that Nik Raneri wasn't nominated for Buck Cluck in Chicken Little. Some of the best CG Character animation that's ever been done. And from a traditional guy!
For best voice performance, all 4 nominees were W&G cast members. No mention of the Penguins again. Nor the Lemur King. Nor anyone from Chicken Little.
The Annies have the potential to be something more than a popularity contest. But to do it right, people should be able to vote in their category of work.
Because the very best individual work of the year isn't being highlighted. The best FILM was. But not the best individual work.
Exactly! King Jullian was shunned!Sullivan wrote:
For best voice performance, all 4 nominees were W&G cast members. No mention of the Penguins again. Nor the Lemur King. Nor anyone from Chicken Little.
And yes, there were some nice voices in "Chicken Little" that might've deserved notice.
And what about "Corpse Bride"?
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift--that is why it's called the present."
I need to start keeping up with my DVD extras more. I always hear people talking about these "Making-Of" films that I haven't even seen.
Too bad that they don't talk about him on the DVD. I agree, he was the best voice.
Too bad that they don't talk about him on the DVD. I agree, he was the best voice.
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift--that is why it's called the present."
I agree too.
In fact, much as I loved the W&G movie, I did point out at the time that the only thing that somewhat (marginally) marred my enjoyment was Aarman's insistence of animating on twos.
Since all the other films nominated in animation were shot frame for frame, everyone else automatically put twice as much effort into their scenes!
I know these awards are for the acting, but still, I found W&G to be overly theatrical without the nuances of some ChickLit scenes or especially Corpse Bride, for comparison to a similarly made movie.
In fact, much as I loved the W&G movie, I did point out at the time that the only thing that somewhat (marginally) marred my enjoyment was Aarman's insistence of animating on twos.
Since all the other films nominated in animation were shot frame for frame, everyone else automatically put twice as much effort into their scenes!
I know these awards are for the acting, but still, I found W&G to be overly theatrical without the nuances of some ChickLit scenes or especially Corpse Bride, for comparison to a similarly made movie.
Yeah...DreamWorks has this annoying tendancy of just putting the HBO specials on their DVDs and not having VERY little behind the scenes stuff. (mostly--Shrek is an exception).Guess they were too busy fawning over Chris Rock and Ben Stiller...
It was the same thing on POE. The HBO special, and then boring, boring, boring technical stuff.
Couldn't they show us some storyboard meetings or stuff like that??
You can’t just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
That would be really cool. I really dislike all the fluff with been getting in the behind-the-scenes field.
"And after the storyboards are finished, we start to record lines! YAY! And then we start to animate it! YAY! And then we add shading and details! YAY!..."
It’s such a shame, too, because I’m always wondering how they do certain effects and what not.
"And after the storyboards are finished, we start to record lines! YAY! And then we start to animate it! YAY! And then we add shading and details! YAY!..."
It’s such a shame, too, because I’m always wondering how they do certain effects and what not.
And as a result, "Corpse Bride" has perhaps the smoothest stop-motion animation that I've ever seen.Ben wrote:Yep. And it works for fast action, but not so much on the subtle stuff, and it's a shame they don't go the whole hog.
Of course, there are shots in Were-Rabbit where animating every frame is needed for effect, but in effect, Corpse Bride contained twice the number of poses.
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift--that is why it's called the present."