No idea if they're in it. I was just pointing out that nothing happened at that moment in the scene that should have made her turn away from the kiss, including Ursula having her onions step in.Ben wrote: May 11th, 2023, 5:07 am Are Flotsam and Jetson even confirmed for this version!? I know they’re "around" on some posters, but I don’t think they’re going to play any significant role this time around.
Randall wrote: May 11th, 2023, 9:14 am Hollywood Reporter has early reactions now. Sorry, having trouble pasting the link from my tablet. But while some call it the best of the LA remakes (low bar!), many call out its lack of magic and its pointlessness. However, many do cite the cast as doing a great job.
Wouldn’t that just make her cry…?
So, yeah…a bit of a wait for the first song. In a musical.According to Menken, it was a bigger priority to create more of a buildup to Ariel’s performance of “Part of Your World,” which is widely regarded as one of the initial film’s signature songs. “I think the thought process was a) we didn’t need it in this particular version,” Menken said about “Daughters of Triton” getting nixed. “And we definitely wanted the film to start with a much more of a live-action feel of the ocean and meeting Ariel, and then we wait a little bit, make you wait until we get to ‘Part of Your World.'”
He continued, “And I think that was, you know, it was an amazing choice because it just builds the power and anticipation. And part of that is also knowing you’re adapting something that’s already beloved. So you want to say, ‘Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it — and here it is.’ And when it comes, God.”
Yes, agree. Great way of putting it!Bill1978 wrote: May 15th, 2023, 6:10 am But hey, let's cut it and Fathoms Below (which sets up beautifully the upper world view on mermaids) just so we can irritate the audience into waiting for the first song to appear in a musical. The argument Menken gives, is basically the equivalent of cutting Arabian Nights and One Jump Ahead because the audience is only keen on hearing Friend Like Me first in Aladdin.
The thing I like about Daughters of Triton is that it's largely comic relief. You have the sisters all sounding awful (I get a kick out of a couple of them being voiced by Musker and Clements, lol) and then the ending with Triton inchoate with rage. But they've also cut the other comic relief song--the chef scene, which is hilarious. Apparently this film is going to be one, long dirge aside from Awkwafina.Bill1978 wrote: May 15th, 2023, 6:10 am I know Daughters of Tritons isn't an amazing song and can be viewed as a throwaway song, but it does set up so much about the world we are entering without having to explain things. It tells as Sebastian is the court's musician so when he breaks into song for Under The Sea and Kiss The Girl it actually feels natural, It shows us Ariel's family, it shows us Triton's court and most of all it introduces us to Ariel's rebelliousness and desire to focus on other stuff than being a princess because she isn't in the song. It also gives as a reasoin to why Sebastian is annoyed at being made Ariel's chauffeur and why Triton is easily annoyed with Ariel's rebelliousness.
The Disney artists moved the story from the frigid Baltic of Andersen's native Denmark to a warmer, sunnier that suggested the Mediterranean, probably off the coast of southern Italy. Elements in the costumes and building suggest an equally vague time in the late seventeenth or eighteenth century. Musker says, "Rowland Wilson- he's a great draftsman-designed the Prince's palace. He did a drawing that we loved that combined these Mediterranean elements, making it a palace unlike any other Disney fairy tale palace, with the whitewashed stucco. He was really going for a warm southern Mediterranean feel that he thought would be attractive to a mermaid who'd been stuck all her in life in the cold ocean."
